Claire: Thank you, Charles, for sitting down with us for this
interview. . . I wanted to first introduce you and talk about how
you came to Adi Da Samraj.
Charles: Sure. I moved to San Francisco when I was 21
to be a dancer. That was my only goal in life. The last
thing in my mind was finding a spiritual teacher. But one
of my first jobs in 1974 was at Stacy's Books where one
of my co-workers was Bob Delollis (a longtime devotee
of Adi Da Samraj). He would come in with a little
cassette player and play a tape called "Garbage and the
Goddess" and other early talks by Bhagavan Adi Da.
And that's how I came across Adi Da Samraj. It was just
one of those wonderful, graceful connections.
But I thought I knew what I wanted to do, and it had nothing to do
with having a Guru. However, I did start reading Adi
Da's books. And for seven years, as I was dancing in San
Francisco, I continued to read them. No other spiritual
books were interesting to me. But I wasn't ready to be
deterred from my conventional life yet.
Then in 1981, I went to Massachusetts for a visit, and a
friend of mine who lived there called me. She said, "There's going to be
a Celebration of Good Company this weekend. Do you
want to go there and find out more about Adi Da with me?" I said, "Yeah, let's do it!"
It was a wonderful weekend of events with videos of Adi Da and music.
At the end, they did a raffle. Just before they were
going to pull the winning name out, I felt this descent of a
very calm, but strong Force. I felt it in my body, but it also
felt like a blanket coming down over the whole room. I've
since identified this as a characteristic quality of Adi Da.
But at the time, I didn't know what it was. All I knew was
that after this Force descended, I knew I had won the
raffle. I was so calm. I'd never been so sure of anything.
And so when they pulled the name out and announced
me as the winner, I wasn't even surprised.
I already knew I had won.
I signed up to be a student of Adi Da that same day. And then
I moved to Seattle to be a part of the Adidam community
there.
Claire: What drew you to serve the Sacred Archives?
Charles: This is an interesting story, because I’d never
thought of serving the Archives. That wasn't a part of my
goals, but I didn't know what my goals were. I'd come to a
point in my life where, at 56, I couldn't make a living being
a dancer anymore. I didn't want to do any of the other
work I had already done.
So I just sat down in front of
Bhagavan's Murti Photograph in my little hovel in Santa
Rosa and I did the Devotional
Prayer of Changes. I mean it
wasn't profound or anything. I just briefly prayed for right
livelihood.
I’d come to a place where I knew I needed
Help. And then I remembered that when you pray, you
have to also change your act. So I went on a retreat at
The Mountain Of Attention. I thought, "I've got to do
something with my life". So I went on a retreat for five days.
And on the third day, I was asked to serve in the Sacred
Archives. I went to the photo lab with Scott Campbell and
he showed me how to scan a slide, and I started to work.
Then at the end of the day, Elliott Mehrbach completely
surprised me by asking me if I'd like to move to The
Mountain Of Attention and do this service fulltime. It was
a no-brainer. It was obviously Bhagavan Adi Da's answer to my
prayer.
Claire: That's such a great story!
Charles: Yeah, Adi Da just intervened. He plucked me out of
my life in Santa Rosa and deposited me here. And I've
been here three years now. I asked Scott, how did you know I
was the right person? Because you know Scott is very
particular. And he said, "I just knew."
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